Talk:Syd Barrett

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October 23, 2005	[article nominee]	Listed
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Expand all of the Floyd's studio album articles to at least GA status.
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GA Reassessment

Syd Barrett

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Large portions of cited text were removed from the article last August which I feel harms the overall quality.
There's a maintenance template indicating verfication is needed for footnote ref 122.
There's a clarification needed template after a sentence in the death section which refers to something called "cambridge 2005", presumably a book but I can find no evidence of its existence.
Footnote reference 99 is for a fansite called "pinkfloydfan.net" which doesn't satisfy WP:RS. If someone wants to cite Record Collector they should cite it directly rather than copyvio duplicates on fansites.
Footnote 109 references a fan created database of bootleg records and also a fansite "echoeshub", neither of which satisfies WP:RS,
Several other similar non RS fansites are cited. No point in listing every one.
Reference formats are inconsistent. And in some cases, citations to print magazine or newspaper are missing page numbers, bylines and other detail. Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 21:55, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article has deteriorated somewhat in the last 10 years and wouldn't pass GA now. I have book sources available to fix this, and if I can improve the sourcing this week, I will, otherwise I'm going to reluctantly suggest a delist. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 08:02, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Having had a closer look, I think this one is salvageable. I was expecting to have to rewrite large sections, but it seems that this is simply an unwatched article that has been degraded by inexperienced editors. Regarding, Several other similar non RS fansites are cited. No point in listing every one. I am going through and tagging claims with {{better source needed}} to remind me to do them. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:19, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm interested to know why you think the article improvements by Popcornfud in August 2024 harmed the quality of the article. In view, they did the exact opposite - they improved it. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 16:10, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think they improved the article? Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 17:22, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As the edit summaries said, "this is all detail more about Pink Floyd, and should be covered in the main Pink Floyd article. keep the focus here on Syd Barrett" Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 08:13, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I disagree with that assessment. Barrett was a member of Pink Floyd, so some detail of his former band, especially reliably cited detail in proper context, seems useful. Especially when most of the other issues I raised here were left unaddressed. Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 15:35, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, your reference updates have been helpful! Iggy pop goes the weasel (talk) 15:41, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's tons of detail about Pink Floyd in the article, but it has to be kept to an appropriate degree of context. For example, most of this detail about Piper at the Gates of Dawn is about Pink Floyd in general, with little specificity to Barrett. We don't need a quote from Nick Mason discussing their debut single, not here. Popcornfud (talk) 16:08, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]